Chalice Dungeons are subsections of an old labyrinth carved out by Pthumerians[1] and known as a tomb of the gods. I want to add what I found in the old hunter. This is not technically a Depth 7 map, just a Depth 5 dungeon with a 1/8 HP curse and 4 Rotted rites applied. Contributions to Fextralife Wikis are licensed under a, You will need 3 to get to +7, 5 to +8, and 8 to +9 for a, Can be bought from the Insight messenger bath shop (20 insight) after defeating. After that, go to room midway on spiral stairs, and kill final, fifth beast. The creature is instantly aware of the player's presence as soon as they arrive. It does not change in New Game+. Help please? So I tried it and got my Insight to 90. All fan-art should be OC; only the original creator may submit it. You get a hidden 100 bonus Item Discovery. Future Press gone behind the scenes with Bloodborne's creators to unearth every secret hidden within the mysterious city of Yharnam. L1 first bonus room: Odd Arcane triangle gem (+29.3 flat arcane), Lost Threaded Cane. Created last summer by a moderator on r/TombProspectors, a subreddit dedicated to exploring and cataloguing Bloodborne's chalice . Appears in the insight messengers store after the defeat of The One Reborn(as of patch 1.04). Notes - Blood Gems in false depth dungeons Ritual Materials [ spreadsheet] L2 has 2 identical hunters in same room. You can use the false depth story dungeons to unlock "Depth 5 FRC chalice dungeons" for farming without passing through all the story chalice dungeons in order (no need to kill Story Amygdala and Ebrietas). Has 9 sage hair in chest! There's a corridor with a couple of pthumerians. Very good strat here for Chunk Farming ( But you also need to be Patient aswell ). Farming for them is tedious as hell since none of the non-chalice enemies drop them commonly. So I have this F, R, Cursed dungeon with firedogs, with very little space to maneuver and unsafe environment, and surviving this encounter about 1/3 of the time. 4, 9+ weapons without farming. This dungeon is a fast Bloodtinge farm - Shotgun watcher on layer 1 in the dark room near lamp can be farmed for Bloodtinge gems (including OOS). 4x RB(5) in the smll chest atop the ladder room. Here's a pretty decent glyph. Keeper, BPS, Loran Darkbeast (donut), Abhorrent Beast (donut). False depth chalice dungeons are save edited dungeons that allow quick access to Fetid Rotted Cursed (FRC) dungeons without going through all the other lower depth dungeons such as the Cursed and Defiled Chalice; all it requires is the Pthumeru Root Chalice. while dungeon is in glitched state, it can happen a lot of doors and/or ladders will become unusable. The "glitched" state of the dungeon will be gone if you quit the game or exit the dungeon. Second glyph: material dungeon. You have three picks for your false depth story chalices here: 3aqbyx95 - Pthumeru Ihyll - must defeat Pthumerian Descendant and Headless Bloodletting Beast, zqxwj9g4 - Lower Loran - must defeat Silverbeast, Abhorrent Beast and Loran Darkbeast, zwmn9yzn - Isz - must defeat Brainsucker, Celestial Emissary and Ebrietas. Buy all the Sinister Root chalices you are missing from false depth c6anzq4k, Layer 1, messenger bath in pre-lamp side area. And also: there is a merciless wstched that drops cursed tempering damp gems (5) that guards( with 1 labyrinth watcher) a treasure room that gives: 1 odd temperind damp gem (5) 6 tomb mould (5) and in the coffin is a great one's wisdom. Aggro them one at a time (pebbles, bullets, knives) and lure them back to the door. This dungeon randomizes the Bosses, layout and loot. After this, you can simply sprint to Darkbeast Paarl lamp to repeat. You can now access both FRC Isz and FRC Ihyll glyphs. Both these paths reduce the amount of chalices you need to enter to 2. Ritual Blood(5)); Depth 4 Pth.Labyrinth; L1 main room: BPS in cave near the lever. They offer a chance to experience Bloodborne 's sense of exploration, danger and reward in all new ways. So, below I read that insight makes chunks drop more. False depth chalices originated as copies of depth 5 root chalices such as Ihyll or Lower Loran, and are most commonly used to farm higher level gems or get Uncanny/Lost variants of weapons, runes, loot and so forth. scurrying beast dupe exploit > depth 5 chalices > ng+ > farming one mob for hours. It is one of two skill/arcane hybrid weapons. ez bosses and short door runs. It just doesn't make any sense. If the dungeon has an open 4th layer and after killing the boss of the 3rd layer, generally you will want to light the lantern on the 4th layer and perform the glitch again after backing up your save. E.g. In order to leave the dungeon, walk off the invisible stairs and allow yourself to fall all the way to the bottom. Someone did around a 1000 runs on Reddit and cataloged the results. Refer to this post here for all the information about this dungeon and the dupe glitch. Go on your second character and open the menu on any altar (including the makeshift altar). There is phantom at the sideway from the main corridor, probably the same interactible phantom as found in m2vgwtjf. Deep Sea (+300) on L3 side room. I know we can buy some after completed a chalice dungeon but I can't remember wich one. Pre boss: 20.3% - 21.8% Phys. Not a lot of extra stuff, but a clear route and an easy boss. Blood Rock guarded by a fatroller (can be easily avoided by sneaking behind him and grabbing the treasure). So I started farming and did a few dozen farming runs and I think it's safe to say that not having chunks in your inventory helps the drop-rate. They act like a dungeon-crawler, with enemies, bosses and items often not found in the main story. 2 Bone Ash Hunters near L1 lamp can be farmed for echoes - with all 3 Heir rune: 450,000 echoes each, Pth. false_depth_chalices - bloodborne - Reddit 3x Tomb Mold (5) in the room before the boulder corridor. They are depth 1 dungeons swapped via save editor to depth 5. Previously, there has been no way to escape them without a back-up save on most versions of Bloodborne, but I am pleased to report that this is no longer the case. Can also be farmed from the blue-eyed Scourge Beastsin Upper Cathedral Ward. Depth 4 Pthumerian Labyrinth with Loran layout. Chalice Dungeons | Bloodborne Wiki | Fandom Hi there ,I have got as far as beating rom ,and Ive been trying to find blood stone chunks ,but I cant find them at any of the locations on here ,what am I doing wrong , The Bone werewolf with the chunk next to it also has a chance to drop a chunk. Who's the genius behind that? They're present in fixed locations in Lower Pthumerian Labyrinth and in random locations in Root Chalice Dungeons. They can still hit you through the door, though, so be careful. Celestial Emissary, Keeper, Ebrietas, Pthumerian Elder. Hunters who dare enter a false-depth dungeon will be met by late-game enemies, usually much earlier than if played the traditional way, but those who triumph will reap late game rewards. : you have Pthumeru Ihyll root and only Sinister Isz, but not Isz root. L1 Watcher guarding coffin in first bonus room can be farmed for 25.3% physical and elemental triangles. This dungeon features three Wet Nurses, boss room has four different doorways and only two are blocked by fog gates so there are two doors to escape the dungeon from, one on either side. Traces of the Old Ones can be still found in old labyrinth, including their blood[10] and pearl slug-like creatures. I noticed this wasn't mentioned here, so I thought I'd share my discovery. This coffin has a blood rock. there are requirments for chalice dungeons? The name of the boss is actually "Moon Presence" from what is displayed on the boss health bar. But the boss is a pig, so isn't too bad. Boss can lose its fur during the fight, trigger seems random and it is probably connected to the game version differences. Blood Rapture (tier 2) - treasure coffin on Layer 1 before layer boss. All you need to escape is a second character and an online player to summon you into any dungeon. Discord groups for Bloodborne communities page revision: 74, last edited: 14 Mar 2023. Quadruple Rotted, 87.5% Curse Dungeon + oil smoke effect. Triple Curse (98.44% HP cut), Quadruple Rotted, Depth 7 dungeon. It requires a depth 5 chalice. It is intended for players who have already experienced the game in its natural state and want to create new builds faster. There is a unknown enemy that has a unique buff that has a permanent effect until the player reloads or leaves the dungeon. Chalice Glyph - 4f3x2uc6 False Depth Dungeon.Obtaining the very first Pthumeru ROOT Chalice from the Merciless Watchers Boss in Layer 2 of the first Story Du. False depth Pthumerian Labyrinth with Loran layout (depth 5). I dont seem to get the chunks by the insight bath with my one character. The dog-like enemies that normally walk around with a Keeper[enemy designed like the dungeon boss] also drop chunks semi-regularly. There are Witches/Mad Ones here! Lower floors have no collision detection so you will fall through them unless you land on some objects there. I was able to get the route to the lever and then the boss down to 1 minute 48 seconds. The Chalice Dungeon feature in Bloodborne includes both standard dungeons as well as procedurally-generated dungeons. The way this is all wrote is extremely bunched up and confusing. Reverse depth is the opposite of false depth; it's depth 1 difficulty and gives low tier blood gems, but the pay off is Blood Stone Chunks and Blood Rocks. Walk outside of the Chamber of the Seal, wait for a few seconds to receive 83000 echoes, then use Bold Hunter's Mark and repeat. The Yharnam in the Nightmare of Mensis shares the same model as the clones. [21] However, just as it was in Yharnam, it is not clear if medical procedures said to be intended to control the scourge weren't the cause of the outbreak. Multiple dungeons with the Wet Nurse were found, always having at least one other Wet Nurse with her. In a Sinister dungeon, it doesn't quite work out. The way the game seems to handle the fourth layer is by having a sort of Illusory Wall at the end of the boss room that just can't be broken. As for me, I can assure I won't let those leeches to suck\spend my insight to check if I return to poor drop rate. Visit /r/tombprospectors for any discussion or questions you might have on save-edited chalice dungeons. However, experienced tomb raiders can exploit these traps and hazards to benefit themselves. The top of the stairs has a coffin that is guarded by a sickled madman. Boss room has doorway to what appears to be an L4, but instead is a doorway to the void. You create Isz FRC. These traps and hazards are designed to repel and kill off tomb raiders. L1 main: 1x RB(5) guarded by a scourge beast. L1 pre lamp: Great Lake, pre boss: 20.3% - 21.8% Arcane triangle gem in a coffin (can only be looted once - save scum for best gem), False depth Pthumeru Ihyll (depth 5) dungeon. Head into the doorway and kill the malformed Scourgr Beast there, then pop back out and down the last set of stairs to the other jail area, kill the second Scourge Beast., and Bold Hunter's Mark.Each of them has about a 1/10 chance of dropping a Chunk, in my experience (~250 item discovery). Reverse depth dungeons are the opposite of False depth dungeons - they are depth 1 dungeons swapped via save editor to depth 5. Clones have slight visual differences from the original Queen, they have a flat belly and a less detailed dress (and no-blood knife during the last phase). Sinister Chalices can be used to create PvP-type dungeons. L1 first bonus room: False depth Pthumerian Labyrinth with Isz layout (depth 5). Once you have obtained your root chalice of choice, you need to visit this specific dungeon: smki9ww2 - Isz with no additional rites. Only need to kill one boss on the first layer. Terrible Curse (75% HP cut), Depth 6 dungeon. Regular vs edited glyphs : r/bloodborne - Reddit Idk man, a way to buy these with Blood Echo, maybe after Mergo, would've been nice. Either it's some quirk with her clones, causing them to spawn all at once, or she might have been meant to be a multi-boss. L2: The first two door in the first bonus room will close if you reset the map (e.g. Patches the Spider won't turn hostile when attacked. Some Celestials stay under ground and are immune even to Madaras Whistle. This is not technically a Depth 7 map, just a Depth 5 dungeon with 3 Curses and 4 Rotted rites applied. Once you have access to the dungeon, unlock the boss room, slay it,remake the dungeon and repeat. Due to the chunks rarity, at least 400 Discovery is recommended if you use this method. False depth story Hintertomb with Layer 4 open. RDCs for Early Chunks/Rocks - Bloodborne - GameSpot I can with another character. ATK) guarding a 24.3% - 26.1% BLT Circle gem (can only be looted once - save-scum for best gem). When a player quits the game during co-op or invasion, the game seems to temporarily confuse stored data for dungeons placed on altars. Some new false depth dungeons popped up recently (No. Optional: use false depths to get better weapons, better gems and blood echoes to level up. Takes about 3 minutes, plus you get a load of blood echos. After death, some substances crystallise, but most simply harden and form blood stones. Happy Hunting! Bloodborne Game of the Year edition (CUSA03173) can ONLY load save files from itself, and from CUSA00207. When the player performs a chalice ritual to create a Root Chalice Dungeon, they can perform Additional Rites that will make the challenge greater while also increasing the rewards: "Invigorates the Watchers, making them more treacherous than normal, but also making them worthy prey for a special hunt. L1: Watcher mob in circular room in first bonus area drops cursed 25.3% phys radials and 30.4% adept radials. L1: four Wandering Madnesses in close proximity. For example, Loran Silverbeast and Scourge Beast in false depth dungeons with Loran layout drop tempering gems as the most common gem type with Pthumeru secondary effects like flat physical damage or Physical ATK UP at full HP. Unsurprisingly, the Cum Dungeon is one such false-depth dungeon. The only difference is that, because they are theoretically depth 1, the bosses drop basic blood stones instead of chunks and rocks. False depth Pthumerian Labyrinth with Isz layout (depth 5). L1 pre lamp: Blood Rock. A dungeon menu with text like ?PlaceName? or ?menuText?, Multiples of the same rite applied, or has all four applied at once (SFRC). Everyone *****ing lol just play the game NOT like a scrub and you'll be fine. If you don't want to use a the exploits then you are at a big disadvantage given the drops for chunks is so poor. Second Bonus Room: Lost Saw Cleaver guarded by flame labyrinth guardian. L1: BPS and two madmen near lamp can be farmed for echoes. False depth Pthumerian Labyrinth with Loran layout (depth 5). Chunks and Blood Rocks have higher drop rate but you need to wear at least one Eye rune or Milkweed, "Slot machine dungeon" - all gem effects are possible, Watchers, Undead Giant(Cannon), Pth. Performing Chalice rituals consume Blood Echoes and chalice materials. [5] City of Yharnam takes its name from Pthumeru's last ruler, Queen Yharnam,[6] residing at the deepest dungeon of Pthumeru Ihyll. F/R/C dungeon made sinister so Bell Ringer doesn't naturally spawn. Select CHALICE RITUAL at a Ritual Altar in the Hunter's Dream, and then select a Holy Chalice and an offering in order to conduct the ritual and unseal a Chalice Dungeon. It goes the other way too with Reverse Depth dungeons, apparently. The small door is the real exit. With interactible phantom at the start, unique staircase and unaccessible layer 2.Bells will only work when in "Layer 1" area. on one run. Arcane gems are possible to get there but their drop rate is very, very low. Fookin_idiot 2 yr. ago They're dungeons that were created using backdoors in system programming. And it still takes forever for chunks to drop. The use of false depth story chalices is to obtain a Depth 4/5 root chalice right away, by defeating the second or last boss (depending on which one you pick), and create a FRC chalice which allows you to access all others, for gem farming purposes. 4x Tomb Mold (5) and Flowers in the side room in the boulder corridor. If you play online**, the game will not tell Sinisters and normal Roots apart**: if you have a Sinister variant of a certain chalice, it will allow to access FRC glyphs of the same type. False depth story dungeons are similar to false depth dungeons but they use maps from the story chalices. Terrible curse (75% HP cut) dungeon for farming Bloodtinge gems. This is not normally a bother but with chunks it's noticeable. False depth story dungeons are similar to false depth dungeons from Zullie but they use maps from the story chalices This allows us to skip most of the chalice path and go to IszLoranIhyll right after obtaining the first pthumeru root chalice The bosses in false depth story chalices drop root chalices as they usually would in normal story chalices and sinister root chalices can be . They are optional content; however, there are two Trophies possible to get only through Chalice Dungeons including the only one Gold Trophy for a boss. Can only be looted once. Vids on YouTube. Second glyph: false depth Isz with Bastards of Loran. Any false depth dungeons for farming chunks or insight? After another 30 second delay, the death effects will trigger and the ". The door openning re-closes and creature respawns on reload. It may not be the fastest way to farm chunks, but it's easy and decent enough if you're tired of killing other stronger beasts (gargoyles are very easily killed, even with little caution). Bloodborne False-Depth Radial +25% Phys. +30% Blunt/Thrust - YouTube That time I had 30 insight on me. The bath messenger is in the room at the end. False depth Pthumerian Defilement (depth 4). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDW_KYirKaE <--- time to be a farmer. Blood Rock in side dungeon before main lair on first floor. You'll lose your Blood Echoes but nothing else. The fastest and simplest way to farm Blood Stone Chunks is through using false-depth chalice dungeons. I have 430 (50 arcane + eye runes). [16][17], Eventually, the Choir was able to have audience with Ebrietas herself after discovering a Great Isz Chalice. L1 pre lamp: Blood Rock is guarded by a hooded bsucker. Additonally, f3cz4awe is a copy of favorite Bloodtinge farming glyph y592byza. chunks. It's known that it was the first Great Chalice brought back to the surface since the time of Byrgenwerth,[18] suggesting some other Great Chalice had already been found. 11 - 15 on the sheet), remarkable loot: Lost Reiter, Lost Blade of Mercy, Uncanny Beast Claw. Save-edited dungeons are made by players with access to tools outside of Bloodborne itself, allowing them to tinker with certain aspects within. You can now access FRC Isz, FRC Ihyll and FRC Defiled glyphs. Dropped by two big scurrying beasts down in the poison lakes. +8 to +9 costs 160 insight. [4] Oldest of these keepers, still encountered within the Chalice Dungeons, gained an eternal life, yet as an ashen form being a result of a ceremony of flame, cremating both body and soul. Main area has a wandering Cannon Giant. Guarded by Brain Trust. Done this, you are all set to create a FRC Defiled root chalice, and move to step 6! Uncanny Stake Driver in pre lamp bonus room on L1. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Need to beat Brainsucker, Merciless Watchers and, optionally, Celestial Emissary. The dungeon only has 4 enemies and the boss, Loran Silverbeast, can be killed very easily with a parry and a couple good whacks. I am not writing this guide to explain how save editing works; instead, I am going to talk about a specific and newer aspect of chalice editing, which is extremely useful for people who like making new builds and do not want to go through the story dungeons every single time. The total yield of this dungeon, if you run all of it, is: At this point, create your FRC chalice of choice and proceed to step 6. No chest can be opened nor destroyed. wut. L2 first bonus room: Kin Coldblood (11) in the cannon room, in the cave with the gravekeeper and his dogs and in the area underneath the bridge. Pthumeru Root Chalice is a Chalice Item in Bloodborne. Layer 1 - red-aura madman near lamp can be farmed for gems with all possible effects. It appears that this buff gives 4.0x physical AR boost (including firearms) and 2.0x HP boost. I would buy Chunks for 5 Insight a piece but 20 is ridiculous! The effect is much greater than the Rite Keeper's buff which increases damage and health. bej77ini is the real deal. Nets about 100 chunks per hour. I hope this guide will be useful to those of you who have not tried this new path yet. Players are able to co-op in Chalice Dungeons and even share their dungeons for others to experience. Since it's an Isz. It's high risk high reward. ", Testing Chalice Dungeon for unused boss, there is only one layer with boss arena. These dungeons have the potential to trap your character within, completely unable to leave. False depth Lower Hintertomb. The run is about a minute, and since you don't have to wait for an elevator, along with higher drop rates compared to gargoyles, I believe it to be a solid farming method.Of course, you could always run a dungeon with bosses that drop Chunks, and use the Insight gained per run to slowly pay for additional ones after beating One Reborn. By conducting a Chalice Ritual, the seal to the old labyrinth can be broken, allowing you to explore it in the form of Chalice Dungeons. False depth chalice dungeons are save edited dungeons that allow quick access to Fetid Rotted Cursed (FRC) dungeons without going through all the other lower depth dungeons such as the Cursed and Defiled Chalice; all it requires is the Pthumeru Root Chalice. In some, falling to your death in the void returns you to the start of the dungeon. Spider Bell Maiden. The lever-operated door can often appear with blue lights as if it was unlocked, but interacting with it will give "Locked by contraption" message. We have to farm them from late game enemies with not even that good a drpprate even at higu discovery! If both players are inside a dungeon in a glitched state, co-op seems to be possible as normal. Bloodstone Chunk is an upgrade Item in Bloodborne. Both types of dungeons can be played offline or online with other players, but generating new dungeons requires connecting the game online once to download required data. Pungeon Cocktails and Music Box have no effect. [13] Phantasms were discovered through Byrgenwerth's contact with the arcane, but in the end revealed nothing and failed to make contact with the outer reaches of the cosmos. [, Same testing Chalice Dungeon as previous one but with Great One Beast boss instead of Moon Presence final form. 27.2% Physical / 32.6% Adept / 34.4% Fools, L1: Merciless Watchers (long room with many pillars), 21.7 Rapid Poison (Other Hintertomb effects may appear), 27.2% Arcane / 23.6% Nourishing / 29% Fools ATK UP, 27.2% Fire / Bolt (Other effects will appear), Fire / Bolt (Other Loran secondaries will appear), 21% Arcane ATK / 18.2% Nourishing (rare drop), 21% Fire / Bolt ATK (Other Loran effects may appear), L3: Wandering Abhorrent Beast (doesn't respawn - save-scum), L1 main: 2x poison aura Gravekeeper Scorpion with children, Physical / Rapid Poison / Beast/Kinhunter, 23.1% Arcane (Other rare Isz effects will appear), 27.2% Arcane / 23.6% ATK / 29% Fools ATK UP, 27.2% Tempering / 32.6% Adept / 34.4% Fools, L1: red aura Merciless Watcher guarding lever, 27.2% Fire / Bolt (Other effects may appear), 7.8 Rapid Poison (Other effects will appear), Fire / Bolt (Improved chance, other effects can appear), Fire / Bolt (Improved chance, other effects will appear), + 33.8 Bolt (Improved chance, other effects will appear), 21% Arcane ATK UP (Other effects will appear), Arcane / Fools / Poormans ATK UP (doubled), 21% Fire / Bolt ATK UP (Other effects will appear). L3 first bonus room: 1x Great One's Wisdom, Odd Arcane blood gem in chest (Add arcane ATK+47.3), Odd Arcane blood gem in coffin (Add arcane ATK+45.5). lmao all these people complaining about farming these*****s. yall could never survive bloodborne or any of the souls games solo bruh bet yall live off of beckoning people stop complaining. When using a root chalice, the structure of the unsealed Chalice Dungeon will change each time the ritual is conducted. Glyphs share here are safe so in order to leave the dungeon, walk off the map and allow yourself to fall all the way to the bottom. Pthumeru Chalice became a relic in the Old Yharnam[7][9] in the Church of the Good Chalice. The bath messenger that sells it is on L1: go outside the layer 1 lamp and up the ladder on your left. If you buy GOTY you'll need to start a new save. The difficulty of the dungeon increases with its depth and rites. First glyph: story chalice. This is not technically a Depth 7 map, just a Depth 5 dungeon with 3 Curses and 3 Rotted rites applied. L2 first bonus room: Shadow of Yharnam (mace variant). False depth Isz chalice. Red aura madman near lamp can be farmed for cursed waning gems (phys, fire, bolt) with doubled secondary effects. Testing Chalice Dungeon for the objects. I'm working my way through the chalices dungeons atm as I've put them off since growing bored with them back in May and would appreciate a glyph suggestion and it's requirements for a chalice that has a good stock/drop rate of these. Testing Chalice Dungeon for unused boss, there is only one layer with boss arena. Most of the treasure is on layer 3; the fourth layer has additional Ritual Blood 5 and a couple other materials. Layer 1 first bonus room: False depth Pthumeru Ihyll chalice. Bath Messenger, sells Lost/Uncanny DLC weapons. Are those monsters the one lurking outside in the area of Cainhurst lamp? CHALICE Comfirmed (12/0/2020) DZ48CMWR (Pthumeru Ihill) this is a fallse depth. The only potential advantage to this is that its now possible to farm tempering waning gems from labyrinth madman (red aura and flaming weapon madmen drop cursed gems) with Pthumeru secondary effects, something that is quite a hassle to get normally since you have to rely on out-of-shape or out-of-effect drops. There some Labyrinth Watcher (Cleaver) near the other side of the dungeon that are not hostile. He also drops a Great One Wisdom on death. False depth Loran. The Chalice Dungeons contain many fiendish traps deployed by the Watchers and the Pthumerians, an advanced civilization of distant past. Enter the game on that character once more and you will now be back in the Hunter's Dream. L3: non-hostile Undead Giant (Cannon) in bonus area within the main room. L1: Pthumerian labyrinth (depth 5), L1 first bonus room -. [, Same testing Chalice Dungeon as previous one but with Queen Yharnam with clones as boss instead of Moon Presence final form. Layer 1 - 2x fire-sickle madman in 2nd room can be farmed for gems with all possible effects. It is possible to farm cursed gems in false depth chalices if you kill certain enemies whose drop table declares so. On your first character, put the base glyph on the same base altar and the donor glyph on any other altar.
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