My first plane was a Cessna 150 purchased in a like disassembled condition. on BFs)Nothing to be afraid of? In 1980, an organization in Georgia sought to revive the production line and entered into an agreement with Larsen to buy the type certificate and tooling. 1946 Luscombe 8A. I knew a guy who converted his Tri-Pacer into a Pacer (dont ask me why). See the airplanes P.O.H. Using the original Luscombe jigs, restorations are expertly crafted in our 25,000 square foot hangar at the Jamestown Airport KJHW. $59,900 FOR SALE The rudder has a relatively short throw, so a pilot used to more travel or less responsive rudders may overcontrol a bit at first. They have been the victims of unfairly critical accusations about their ground handling. Recovery is conventional and only requires the pilot to reduce back pressure on the stick rather than shove the nose down. Line up with the center of the runway and stop with the tailwheel straight. For the sake of cost, there are two sticks but only one throttle, located in the center of the panel, so the command stick is held in ones left hand. Luscombes Model 8 Silvaire first appeared in 1937, and the first 50-hp production models were on the market in 1938. He lost control of the company within sixteen months and re-signed in April 1939, never again to be involved with the organization that continued to bear his name. I have owned two Luscombes aircraft,Cessnas, pipers,Bellanca and never ground looped one of them. I have seen one plane literally wrapped around another because of high winds. The type certificate and tooling were acquired by Moody Larsen of Belleville, Michigan, in 1964. Depending on the model, loading (the maximum gross weight of all but the lowest-powered versions is 1,400 pounds), and temperature, acceleration ranges from sedate to brisk. Now, be-cause they are pushed by ones heels rather than toes, there are those who insist they are a nefarious plot on the part of those who make airframe re-placement parts to ensure a steady flow of business. WebView 15 LUSCOMBE 8 For Sale Single engine piston aircraft with fixed landing gear. Most Luscombes now have 12.5-gallon fuel tanks in each wing, converting to the style of the later marques and away from the original 14-gallon tank behind the seat. In March 1939, the 8A, with a 65-hp Lycoming, and the 813, with a 65-hp Continental engine, were introduced. This 1947 Luscombe 8E is no different, and its located in Maine after having not known flown since 1977. The gear is housed in tapered fairings and the shock-absorption mechanism is located inside the airframe, so there is little drag and little to inspect other than the brakes. My answer is learn to fly the airplane or leave it in the hanger. airworthiness of an aircraft or the current aircraft configuration. Because more than 50 years have lapsed since most rolled off the assembly line, the idea of aerobatics in the airplane should be approached with extreme caution while contemplating the timeless question: How many times can you bend a tin can? Or subscribe without commenting. I have flown the J-3 Cub, the Citabria and the Pitts Special and have never ground-looped. 1949 Packard Super Deluxe Eight LWB Sedan17 hours$700Bid Now, 1995 Buick Riviera Supercharged3 days$2,000Bid Now, 1963 Pontiac Bonneville Convertible3 days$1,550Bid Now. In January 1935, Luscombe moved his factory to West Trenton, New Jersey, where development started on the Model 90 (to be renamed the Model 4), another radial-engine machine with a lower price tag. The aircraft is a two-place, high-wing, single-engine airplane, equipped with conventional landing gear. WebFind N71881 1946 LUSCOMBE 8A on Aircraft.com. No one has been able to explain it to me but a nose-gear naturally wants to move straight forward. Climb rate for the 8E and 8F was claimed to be 800 feet per minute. Continental C-65/75/85. Recovery is conventional and only requires the pilot to reduce back pressure on the stick rather than shove the nose down. Been a Luscombe owner for a few years and have no complaints. Luscombe Aircraft Corporation | United States | Jamestown, NY All rights reserved. The power-on or departure stall demands that the ball be kept in the center, or the airplane will roll briskly and drop the nose sharply at the break. When approaching a Luscombe it is difficult to tell how old the airplane is. After greasing the airplane onto the runway, they sometimes make the mistake of thinking that they can relax once they are on the ground. TTAF 2993.9. If Moody Larsen did his magic and caused a 115- or 150-hp engine to be up front, climb rate can easily exceed 1,000 fpm. Interesting pproject if capable, and yes flipped two, but buyer had best have all past ownership and flight records for gov, and especially other lower 48 pilots whose clannishness and nose in air is legendary, will gleefully screw you over. With appropriate equipment it is a passable IFR airplane, although range and en-durance can be a little short when trying to reach an alternate. Theres a bunch of birds around here that were in a lot worse shape than this one when their restoration was started. The next day he joined other competitors in flying a local air show; Giles Henderson in his clipped wing cub, Herb Cox flying his Drunk Farmer Stole a Cub routine, Jerry Spear Already a member? Hello, youre 1,000 feet off the ground. Perhaps that is because Luscombe was the first to completely enclose the engine within a cowl, a feat of development at a time when Aeronca and Piper were still cooling flat engines by leaving the cylinders out in the breeze and hoping for the best. After all, the factory employees had received a practical education in crashworthiness be-cause for several years a major portion of the companys income came from re-building wrecked Phantoms. Aircraft is flown regularly so times are variable. WebThe Luscombe 8 was designed by Donald Luscombe and flown for the first time in 1937. The general aviation aircraft is a high-wing, monoplanes with side-by-side seating. PERFORMANCE: Top mph 110. The basic prewar 8 rapidly evolved into the 65-hp 8A, then the B, which had a 65-hp Lycoming; the C with a very rare, fuel-injected Continental of 75 hp (and the first to be advertised as a Silvaire); and, finally, in 1941, the D. The D had the same engine as the 8A and was targeted at the Civilian Pilot Training Program, which bought Luscombes in quantity until World War II got under way and general aviation manufacturing was stopped. WebLUSCOMBE 8A. LUSCOMBE 8A Luscombe 8A Aircraft Overview | SkyTough Subscribe to Our Site. He left Mono Aircraft, maker of the speedy Monocoupes, to set up his own company in Kansas City, Missouri, in 1933. Once in the air the pilot discovers that the Silvaire has crisper handling than its tube-and-fabric brethren. He says that even crosswinds are manageable, thanks to its effective ailerons. Good times, flying old Taxiing one in a stiff crosswind is work. Mine is a 8E To consider a flight in a Luscombe after being away from them for a time generates equal parts anticipation and trepidation. Tall narrow gear and no ailerons. It also developed the 8E and 8F with electrical systems and 85- and 90-hp Continentals, respectively. Finally finished and flew it nearly 2000 hours including three coast to coast trips without a mishap due to a patient and thorough 10 hour check out. Woulda killed me. By If the airplane is rigged correctly, it does not want to drop a wing; it just pitches down, straight ahead. I got frustrated with how long my restoration was taking on N77885 and did exactly that one calm afternoon. This 1947 Luscombe 8E is no different, and its located in Maine after having not known flown since 1977. WebYear: Not Listed Make/Model: LUSCOMBE 8A Registration #: N71288 Serial #: 2715 Location: Pismo Beach, CA USA $27,000 USD Circle M Aviation CALL (530) 305-4151 I accept the Trade-A-Plane terms of use & service: Send Email Stay safe. It was not to be. This will be a monster project but at least its possible if the logs are complete as promised. Find the best new and used aircraft for sale such as business jets, helicopters, Experimental, Warbirds and more. The attractive, extremely strong, tailwheel two-place personal airplane came out of the factory for an initial price of $1,895. Takeoff distance (50) 1,950. N1005K (1946) N1013K (1946) N1015K (1946) N1029K (1946) N1034K (1946) N1035K (1946) N1040K (1946) N1042K; N1045K (1946) N1046K (1946) N1057K (1946) N1064K Aircraft Inquiry How's that for fuel economy? Continental A65-8, 2840 TTSN, No Electrical or WebAircraft for sale. Find it here on craigslist for $4,750 and go here if the ad is archived. Taking on an airplane project can be daunting, but there are many aviation enthusiasts that will tell you planes of this era are so blissfully simple that theres nothing to be afraid of. The experience of flying is wonderful, and when you gaze at the beauty below you, it provides a different perspective on life.I've been flying since 1978 and have been witness to numerous changes in aviation throughout the years. A Bellanca Citabria is considered an easy tailwheel airplane to handle on landing. If the pilot is using one of the brakes a great deal, the length of time for a successful crosswind taxi may be limited, as the brake may heat up and fade. Knowing the wings that are holding you up at 5000 feet are same ones that were on saw horses in your yard gives you pause to think about the quality of your work. They exist because of the determination of an affable scalawag to create and mass-produce all-metal airplanes. WebThe New Luscombe LSA Model 8 Thoughtfully designed to incorporate modern equipment with the look and feel of the Classic Model 8. Temco took over Luscombe and produced some 8Fs with wing flaps while also building the Swift before throwing in the towel. Im guessing its storm damage. Because the flare and touchdown are so easy to do well, new Luscombe pilots occasionally experience a false sense of security. The narrow landing gear make for rather unforgiving landings, but these are a hoot to fly. While it may be nothing but showmanship, the Silvaire can make a good pilot look very good and let the pilot flying it have a ball. For something between $15,000 and $21,000 and the willingness to learn to fly the airplane, the Luscombe can be a most enjoyable personal magic carpet. The United States did not buy Luscombes for wartime duty. Flying a Luscombe 8A around the airport. Easy fix.bolt a leg to each wing tip and put harbor freight casters on them..Snap! It just seems like such a deal ,less then 5K for an airplane, makes you almost think, I could do this, and then reality creeps in and you know it is just the tip of the iceberg of an adventure you probably cant afford! The rudder has a relatively short throw, so a pilot used to more travel or less responsive rudders may overcontrol a bit at first. As World War II wound down, Luscombe moved its factory to Garland, Texas, and decided to resurrect the basic 8A. They have been the victims of unfairly critical accusations about their ground handling. However, this data alone does not provide the basis for a determination regarding the. Landing distance (50) 1,540. LUSCOMBE 11A SEDAN The seller notes this example comes with all logs since new. Full stall and wheel landings are a little deceptive in a Silvaire. Fairly large quantities of fuel in the fuselage tend to give most pilots the heebie-jeebies, so the wing tanks are an im-provement, despite the substantial concern Luscombe showed in 1937 for crashworthiness in designing and protecting the original fuselage tank. LOW TIME 1940 LUSCOMBE 8A $26,000 ACCEPTING OFFERS UC-90A Paint Scheme N25289, S/N 1195, 2166 TT completely restored starting in 2000, 40 In 1955 the type certificate was sold to an organization in Colorado. The information contained in this record should be the most current Airworthiness information available in the historical aircraft record. Get extra lift from AOPA. If the airplane is rigged correctly, it does not want to drop a wing; it just pitches down, straight ahead. Same 65 hp, but a bigger wing than Luscombe. Once in the air the pilot discovers that the Silvaire has crisper handling than its tube-and-fabric brethren. Location: Sanford NC. I love it, I remember these, however never flew one. 1946 Luscombe 8A - Plane & Pilot Magazine WebThe airplane has a lot of adverse yaw, when measured by modern standards, but it's about the same as a Champ and easily handled with a little rudder. The original mechanical disc brakes mostly have been replaced by either Goodyear units that are acceptable but frightfully expensive, or Clevelands, which are very good indeed. Looks like a good project, and a lot of fun to fly around afterwards. The The 8E also featured a more powerful engine over the prior years with 85 b.h.p. Have all logs. Most pilots adjust fairly quickly to this slightly unusual state of affairs. John grew up in Luscombes, holds an A&P certificate, and has acquired the breadth of knowledge held by his father, who is now in failing health. Engine 65-hp Lycoming. It failed miserably in the market; only six were sold. Full stall and wheel landings are a little deceptive in a Silvaire. Luscombe Aircraft Company created the expensive two-place, radial-engine Phantom, whose ground handling was so awful that more than one buyer canceled the sale after taking his first flight. Aircraft just underwent a 15 year restoration and was finished in 2011. the Loop - Mystery Plane - Luscombe 8A The flight controls are relatively well harmonized for an airplane designed in the 1930s. Don Luscombe worked much of his adult life to develop and market an all-metal airplane, fighting almost constant financial crisis in the process. ( by watching several ground loop videos, it seems they are coming in too fast) He struggled with the landing roll every time, Hope you brought that extra pair of underwear with you. The critical next step is to pick out a point beyond the departure end of the runway, straight ahead of the airplane, and resolve to keep the airplane pointed at that spot no matter what happens. LSA were SUPPOSSED to cost 50K. Speaking of which, the engine could be a Franklin, same outfit that supplied engines to Tucker. Slowing to speeds just above the stall demonstrates that the controls, particularly the rudder, remain effective. The Stinson shouldnt even be considered a taildragger its that forgiving. Maneuvering is precise. WebJack Lane's Luscombe 8A 11 - INT - Mystery Plane.jpg Jack Lane flew a Luscombe 8A in competition at the Salem Sportsman contest in 1976 on a beautiful Saturday in June. The cowling opens to allow contemplation of the wonders within. His is an original 8A with no electrical system. The Howard is not an easy aircraft nor is the Gull Wing Stinson. Luscombe aficionados point with pride to the numerous pictures of the airplanes with 16 to 20 people perched atop the wing. Was this a successor to the Luscombe Silvaire that I remember as a kid? I think a Taylorcraft has to be an eye-opening experience in the same vein. Flying a Luscombe 8A - YouTube I don't really know any different either. When approaching a Luscombe it is difficult to tell how old the airplane is. Gross wt. and thats why Im asking not telling. Beautiful airplane that flies incredibly well. Most Luscombes now have 12.5-gallon fuel tanks in each wing, converting to the style of the later marques and away from the original 14-gallon tank behind the seat. Returning to the field for landing, plan on using carburetor heat when the power is reduced, then slow the airplane to about 65 to 70 mph on finalor slower if flying one with flaps. The basic prewar 8 rapidly evolved into the 65-hp 8A, then the B, which had a 65-hp Lycoming; the C with a very rare, fuel-injected Continental of 75 hp (and the first to be advertised as a Silvaire); and, finally, in 1941, the D. The D had the same engine as the 8A and was targeted at the Civilian Pilot Training Program, which bought Luscombes in quantity until World War II got under way and general aviation manufacturing was stopped. He lost control of the company within sixteen months and resigned in April 1939, never again to be involved with the organization that continued to bear his name. His is an original 8A with no electrical system. Production was resumed after the war with allmetal versions of the Silvaire, the 8E and 8F. Please post more of them. That is somewhat optimistic. John Larsen, son of Moody, now runs things at Larsen Field. 1,200. All flying now. The airplane is powered by a horizontally opposed, four cylinder, direct drive, normally aspirated, air cooled, carburetor equipped engine. An attempt to sell the tandem-seat T8F Observer to the Air Force went nowhere. Try 150K for a CTLS. To everyones pleasure, the little powerplant became reliable enough to use on an airplane. Never ground looped. 1946 Luscombe 8A - Plane & Pilot Magazine This is the 1st of your 3 free articles Become a member for unlimited website access and more. The dammage to the vertical stabilizer likely means this has been on its back, perhaps from one of those unforgiving landings. The tailwheel is in clear view and should be examined carefully, for tailwheels have been known to break off. He dropped progressively larger engines into the tough, diminutive airframes until, by the late 1960s, 150-hp stud brutes were rocketing off of the grass at Larsen Field. No need to do it alone. The airplanes met the rather primitive aerobatic certification requirements of the day. Yes, sadly, it has already crashed. Fairly large quantities of fuel in the fuselage tend to give most pilots the heebie-jeebies, so the wing tanks are an improvement, despite the substantial concern Luscombe showed in 1937 for crashworthiness in designing and protecting the original fuselage tank. When Renaissance Aircraft decided to start up the line with a 150-hp version of the 8F, it came to John Larsen and asked him to build the first one. The airplane is approved for day and night VFR/IFR operations when properly equipped and certified. His had the typical wrinkle in the skin aft of the main gear showing a hard landing or two. Logs Since New: 1947 Luscombe 8E The gear is stiff and narrow, yet the rudder is effective, as is the tailwheel. Its an interesting alternative to a Cessna of the same era, and in their day, Luscombes were fairly advanced aircraft. The stall breaks cleanly. If I was small and wanted a 2 place taildragger, I would prefer a Taylorcraft. Learn More Already a member? 2023 Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, Private aviation leader NetJets is hiring pilots, Sweepstakes Cessna 170 heads to avionics shop, Training and Safety Tip: Be fuel-foolproof. Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by Grum.Man, Apr 8, 2017. I don't know what prop was on this airplane, but it settled down to about 100 mph indicated at 2450 rpm, and I knew we were burning about 4-4.5 gallons per hour. On a positive note, the current Luscombe Aircraft Company of Las Vegas, Nevada, has upgraded the design and anticipates selling a 185-hp nosewheel version to be called the Model 11E. 1949 Packard Super Deluxe Eight LWB Sedan, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkDQBXH02fE, https://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?category_level1=Single+Engine+Piston&make=LUSCOMBE&model=8E&listing_id=2315544&s-type=aircraft, Upgraded Small-Block V8: 1971 Plymouth Scamp, Everything Included: 1979 Chevrolet Dually Dual Cab, Affordable Alternative? The engine rebuild alone will set you back about $15,000. The renamed Model 8 emerged from its brief gestation, someone spun the propeller, and it flew on the propitious date of December 17, 1937. Range 350. 1946 Luscombe 8A Could be one of the lowest time Luscombe in the World! Not many of them around, compared to a Cessna 140 or a Piper Super Cub. WebThe Luscombe 8 is a series of high wing, side-by-side seating, monoplanes with conventional landing gear, designed in 1937 and built by Luscombe Aircraft . The 8A wasnt that much more prone to the ground lomcevak than a Cessna 120/140 series. You will cement your skills with a luscombe and all others will seem like a cake walk. Fuel capacity 14. This upgraded 8A entered production in June 1940, and immediately became a best-seller, was first of the breed to be referred to as Silvaire. Jamestown, New York 14701 . Just updating the panel will cost most of what this old bird is worth. For those pilots taller than about five feet, 10 inches, boarding the Silvaire is challenging. No need to buy avgas ($5.60/gal.) 2023 Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, Avg. Well, I guess I asked for it (planes, battleships,etc. Your feet will MOVE on every take Perhaps that started the reputation that persists to this day describing Luscombes as a ground loop waiting to happen. Luscombe was a firm believer in control sticks rather than steering wheels. on board. The information contained in this record should be the most current Airworthiness information available in the historical aircraft record. In cruise the 8E or F will scoot along at a little better than 100 mph on about 5.5 gph. Any a/c that qualifies as a LSA makes ownership a lot easier. Links to additional information about Luscombes and other vintage aircraft can be found on AOPA Online. Its an interesting alternative to a Cessna of the same era, and in their day, Luscombes were fairly advanced aircraft. They are the Luscombe 8 series, sometimes referred to as the Silvaire but generally known to all as simply the Luscombe. Dumbest thing I ever did in aviation, but I got away with it. I shudder to think of what its going to cost to get the radio and instruments back in shape, let alone the engine. Rick Durden, AOPA 684126 , is an aviation attorney who holds an airline transport pilot certificate and enjoys flying antique and classic aircraft. The 108s had the Franklin 6 cyl. They made money with it, I asked not Don Luscombe worked much of his adult life to develop and market an all-metal airplane, fighting almost constant financial crisis in the process. Those who have flown Luscombes for a time have learned that because the controls are very responsive, even at fairly low speeds, the aircraft can handle very stiff crosswinds. Visibility over the nose is outstanding. Exterior and Interior 6/10. Bluntly speaking, the cabin is just plain small by todays standards. After greasing the airplane onto the runway, they sometimes make the mistake of thinking that they can relax once they are on the ground. As in a Greek tragedy, just as Don Luscombe reached his goal of mass-producing all-metal airplanes, the continuing effects of the Depression, constant lack of capital, and his financial shenanigansincluding failure to repay loans and creative use of stockcaught up with him. A65 engine 1243.9 SMOH. One nice thing about these types is some fall under the Light Sport category letting you start flying cheaper then buying a new LSA,which can run 50K on up. A Luscombe does not come close to being in that category. LUSCOMBE 8 SERIES For Sale - Used & New 1 - 5 - Trade-A This freed up some space within the cabin to create a small shelf for storage for the occupants. Ever. LUSCOMBE 8A This provided a cheaper and less complex design, and later changes to the vertical and horizontal stabilizers likewise simplified construction and sped production times up. Its clean lines belie its years. I own both a Lotus Esprit and an Europa and they both have a bigger cockpit than this plane. Sign in to continue reading, By Plane and Pilot Updated November 20, 2017 Save Article. Aircraft.com is the leading registry for planes, jets, and helicopters. Stall mph 37. The best flying Light Sport Aircraft ever designed. Continental A-65-A total time: 1068, SMOH 21 hours. Now, because they are pushed by ones heels rather than toes, there are those who insist they are a nefarious plot on the part of those who make airframe replacement parts to ensure a steady flow of business. On a small grass strip four miles south of Henry Fords behemoth B-24 plant at Willow Run, Larsen lived, worked, and quietly became the Luscombe doctor. The 8A seats up to 1 passengers plus 1 pilot. For the sake of cost, there are two sticks but only one throttle, located in the center of the panel, so the command stick is held in ones left hand. About 1,000 Silvaires were built between the first part of 1938 and the early months of 1942. info@luscombeair.com. Actually, I thought that a Piper Pacer was notorious for ground loops. Steep turns are such pleasure that it is difficult to stop. LUSCOMBE 8A Restoration Request Form. Its way more fun than Trade-A-Plane! The final models of the 8F were produced by Silvaire Aircraft Co. between 1946 and 1960 when their production was discontinued permanently. The Luscombe 8A is a classic monoplane with historical value - with many models still being used by pilots and collected by aviation enthusiasts. The Luscombe 8A aircraft is a high-wing monoplane released in 1940 and it is part of Luscombes 8 series. Plane and Pilot builds on more than 50 years of serving pilots and owners of aircraft with the goal of empowering our readers to improve their knowledge and enthusiasm for aviation. While that only proves the airplane is able to withstand negative Gs, it is impressive nonetheless. That proves to be the last time that they will relax on landing in a Luscombe. SUBSCRIBE. "I was charmed in many ways by the Luscombe - its gleaming, polished-aluminum surface, the great handling, zippy yet economical performance, surprisingly easy landings, and good American hardware.". 650. As in a Greek tragedy, just as Don Luscombe reached his goal of mass-producing all-metal airplanes, the continuing effects of the Depression, constant lack of capital, and his financial shenanigansincluding failure to repay loans and creative use of stockcaught up with him. how and where, and finding ultralight about as exciting as watching an arthritic aged porcupine cross road gave up on flying,, off the ground anyways. I have time in one of these. Taildragger / Luscombe - BARNSTORMERS.COM Find Aircraft That radio should be in a museum. The brakes are actuated by independent floor pedals that were a marvel of innovation in their time. Shaking a wing during the walkaround inspection reminds one that the Silvaire is remarkably strong. Great aircraft with a rich history. Luscombe developed a four-place, 145-hp tailwheel airplane called the Model 11A Spartan that fought certification difficulties and simple poor timing to come out when there was no market to penetrate. Those who have flown Luscombes for a time have learned that because the controls are very responsive, even at fairly low speeds, the aircraft can handle very stiff crosswinds.
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